Comments on: Right here, right now

By: Jamie Doyle

Jamie Doyle — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 14:46:07 +0000

Glen is not just a commenteer – he’s a blogateer (I make it up as I go).

By: Dave Wakerley

Dave Wakerley — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 12:28:38 +0000

It’s almost like a Disney Imagineer!

Well now that puts on the pressure for any future comments Glen!

Dave

By: Glen Alan Woods

Glen Alan Woods — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 05:29:23 +0000

I’ve never been called a commenteer before. I rather like it!

By: Jamie Doyle

Jamie Doyle — Wed, 11 Aug 2010 04:24:57 +0000

Hey David,
I was scouring your blog and came across my tweet – thanks for the mention. The point in the tweet was exactly what I typed – just thought I would clear that up for the other commenteers (not that anyone is discussing this at this point… i just wanted to participate.)

Game on!

By: Dave Wakerley

Dave Wakerley — Wed, 17 Mar 2010 10:48:20 +0000

SAM: You contrarian you… maybe it’s just me being a dreamer and existing in the future.

GLEN: You are right, it’s not either/or but and/also!

I do meet a lot of pastors who are waiting for the bigger budget, or the one more staff member to start doing what they dream of. What I never want to lose sight of is that the best is yet to come but I have only have today!

By: Glen Alan Woods

Glen Alan Woods — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 21:03:38 +0000

Hey Dave! I appreciate the topic.

I teach a workshop on goalsetting which builds on the realities of the now with a view toward the future. So, a long-term goal is measured by short-term objectives, thereby impacting the now. Typically done in 3 month intervals, the short-term objectives build toward the long-term (1-5 years), and can be adjusted as needed so that things remain fluid.

Personally, I think that many plataeued and declining churches make one of two major errors: 1. Flapping about with the winds of the latest trends with little or no sense of their immediate context and needs; or 2. Hunkering down into a long-term rigity, doing the same thing the same way for better or for worse, and wondering why the results don’t improve.

I think the future and the now, along with a sense of rootedness in history, are all important and shouldn’t be seen as mutually exclusive.

By: Sam

Sam — Tue, 16 Mar 2010 18:33:26 +0000

Not to be a contrarian but I think most kids pastors focus to much on the now. They lose sight of the future. There are so many details that can drown out the clearness and direction that God is calling you to. I would say what is the Now of CM (nowist) that will get you Where God is calling you (futureist).

By: Sarah Thompson

Sarah Thompson — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 22:37:56 +0000

Yea it’s getting close! Cant wait to have you over here!

By: Dave Wakerley

Dave Wakerley — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:10:46 +0000

Sarah,

Thanks for Dropping by. I was thinking about NZ and getting excited about my visit in April!

Dave

By: Sarah Thompson

Sarah Thompson — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:53:09 +0000

Hmm.
I think the now is whatever we have in our hands and using it to draw kids an families from wherever they are closer to Jesus.

I guess we can get caught up with what we will do in the future and how we will get what we need to do it. There is actually an urgency for this mission of ours that we cant wait till we’ve got it all together.